Weather in Melbourne - is it as bad as they say during the year?

Youre from Sydney and it shows lmao! Melbourne weather isnt that bad grow tf up. Its cold for no more than 5 months of the year and sunny warm days are quite common. Have you ever even been here.

Its cold a minimum seven months a year: May through November. Ive lived in Melbourne all my life: 60 years.

Try living in places likeCanada like I did for 2 years, we in Australia over use the term cold weather. Locations like Canada, 3/4 of the USA, Europe, Scandinavia to name a few, all experience 10,20,30+ below zero conditions yet people in Australia say 3-7 degrees is cold. Oh please!! not a clue.

The OP asked about Melbourne weather by comparison with other parts of Australia. No mention was made of Canada, Iceland, Alaska, the Antarctic. The OP is not thinking of moving to any of those places. They werent asking about a coldness contest. They were asking about Melbourne. Melbourne is cold 7-8 months of the year.

So sad that people cannot even discuss the weather without a need to become insulting. (You just make yourself look small in so doing, btw.)

I think youre missing my point. You obviously think that nightly minimum of say 3-7 degrees are cold, where by others that live or have lived in others parts of the world would say that were lucky to have winter minimums like that. Sorry, but you just come across a little negative, lifes pretty good in Melbourne as well as the climate that we have here too. Thinks positive and you will feel the benefits !

I completely agree, people speak so negatively of Melbournes weather when we have it quite good here.

I've lived in Canada, the UK and NZ. MELBOURNE IS COLDER. Houses suck and have no insulation, no double glazed glass no central heating. 4 seasons in one day. It's awful

Compared to other places in the world Melbourne is not bad at all. At worst the weather is mild over winter or a few days or 40+ temperatures that come and go over the summer. I agree that most older houses have poor insulation. We are doing our house at the moment (cavity wall and roof insulation, double glazing and also ripped out the ducted heating (We kept getting dry skin and sneezing often) and putting hydronic in its place).

Yeah it depends where you live and how old your house is, new houses seem fine. And considering we sometimes get 20 degree days in winter I wouldnt complain

We dont get 20 degrees in winter. Typically overnight is 4 rising to 13 in the day, but sometimes both extremes are much less than that. Windchill can make even the 13 max seem like much less. If you love cold weather, like some here do, Melbourne will do it for you.

johns 158: Negative about Melbournes weather? ... I loathe it. ... What part did you miss?

Brenda if you really loathe something you should make a change to your life to find something that suite's you best. Not being critical but if something makes you unhappy or something you hate then the best course is to change it. We have moved around different cities in both the UK and Aus to find something to suite us and our needs. All the best.

Whingeing abt the weather is a national pastime. I do it too sometimes, especially in summer. But i am so grateful to be living in such a fabulous city that I accept the hot and the cold. And I find autumn and spring fine. Its mother nature, there r four seasons, just go with the flow.

I moved here after 10 years in Sydney. Im from London. I hate the weather. Ive had heating on March til November. Its winter 7 months of that. Erratic the rest. Summer was a right off this year. If weather affects you then dont move. Otherwise its an ok city to live. I hate the weather though and would move in a heartbeat if my husband didnt refuse.

Also terrible if you have young kids. Too cold and wet for the park so much of the year.

I've lived in Melbourne my entire life, and I would not say that it's cold here. My opinion is the opposite! I've thought many times about moving somewhere colder because Melbourne is too hot for me. In winter it's warm enough that you can wrap yourself in a blanket and feel comfortable without turning on the heater, but for the whole summer you'll be DYING without an air conditioner. If you live in a double storey house, make sure you have air conditioning and heating otherwise the heat will always rise to the top floor (rendering the bottom floor useless in winter and the top in summer). Overall, as long as you have heating and cooling in Melbourne you'll be fine. The weather is pretty mild most of the time, very liveable.

Wasn't it just 4 degrees overnight & only 13 now at midday? Everyone I know there says its been 2 months of winter already even though its not even June yet.

It's my second year in Melbourne from Sydney. I think it's a testament to how much I love this city that I'm committed to putting up with the cold and getting used to it. In saying that it's absolutely horrible though, now that we're in mid May I'm trying to accept the fact that I will likely be frozen for the rest of the year. I thought it was a joke until last year when it was still 16 and raining on the first day of summer, Spring just didn't happen.

Everything you said is absolute garbage. If you genuinely live in one of worlds most liveable hell-holes - which Melbourne is if you listen to the morons who know absolutely nothing about it - you would know better than to say something so inaccurately stupid. Grow up and find a brain.

Hahaha that's the funniest reply I've heard. I've lived in Melbourne for over 40 years. The weather isn't great but not quite that bad. The problem is poor insulation in houses and ridiculously hot, dry summers. Spring and Autumn are lovely, and although cold in Winter there are many sunny days with blue skies. You kinda get used to preparing for all temperatures and checking the forecast daily. Lol

Many sunny skies in winter? Wrong. Left Melbourne for Sunshine Coast Qld. Here 300 sunny days compares to Melb lets say under 100 sunny days. Back to Miserable gray skies land ? No thanks. Melb is SNOBBY and pretentious ATTITUDE.

Too right - I'm in melbourne for work and it is absolutely freeezzzzing!! Haven't been able to do anything outside since I arrived....haven't seen the sun once just dark clouds & have been stuck inside with the heater on the whole time! Not a patch on sunny outdoor Qld life, can't get back fast enough!!

biryani4lyfe, people who cannot even discuss the weather without being nasty and insulting show themselves to be very small people. You, little girl, are a small person. I hope you mature into a nicer human one day. Good luck, honey.

biryani4lyfe, sweetie, feel free to write away all the insults in the world with your dear face attached to them for all the world to see. I won't see them, because I will be unsubscribing this site herewith. All the best to you, sweetheart. I hope a future employer does not see your posts. Heads up: you're not all that anonymous when you put your picture together with your posts, honey.

Ive lived in different cities through Europe. Melb might have everything but we cant enjoy it year round cause of the weather. The weather here is a major factor to peoples mental and physical health but they dont realise it. If its too cold or the weather is unpredictable you tend not to be a active outdoors. You tend to incorporate less daily activity that isnt exercises eg. Walking to the shops, having a pinic or a kick at park. People who havent lived in a different city before cannot really make a statement, what are you comparing it to and what evidence do you have? What do Melbournians do after or before work? Is the weather appropriate for a quick walk or hike at 6 am or 6 pm. Even in summer if you go to the beach there is a possibility it might rain. You constantly need to check the forecast the night before and the of your plans. I lived in the Mediterranean the people would always be out all night, unlike us here come home to watch tv after work or go shops on the weekend cause its raining outside.

Most places in the world that have a temperate oceanic climate (Kppen climate classification Cfb) as Melbourne has, experience seasonal change. Its one of the reasons cities like Melbourne, Vancouver, Auckland are so popular for immigration because it is believed to be the most comfortable climate year round. Sure it may be changeable at times (usually Spring time) but thats why our parks & gardens look nice & green for most of the year, regular light rain year round is a blessing. Personally I wish more people did not want to live in Melbourne, instead we have over 100,000 people moving here each year for over a decade. My only knock on Melbourne is that there are too many people!

Most that move here is for work reasons and not for the weather and are from poor war torn countries, you dont see French German Spanish people immigrate here. Yes Melbourne is a stable well equipped city but if the same standard of living was in the Mediterranean or in Florida or California people wouldnt even consider Melbourne. My parents have been here for 40 years and they hate the weather the still find it hard to get use too. Many of my friends and family have holiday here in winter and in summer and they too have been turned of by the constant unpredictable weather. Many of our neighbours have moved up north or abroad once they have retired. If the weather was stable always hot or cold it is something you could get use to it.

I just had a look at the weather down there and it's only 11 degrees but with the wind chill the apparent temp is JUST 7!! And it's basically the end of winter??! Looks like yesterday was the same too.....just crazy stuff given Australia is known as the warm sunny country! Calm sunny 22 degrees in SE Qld, the best weather ever:)

I know of seven couples over the years that have moved up north trying to live in Utopia. Five of the couples returned because they could not handle the humidity, and the other two couples divorced. Weather is often an easy target when people are not happy with their lives. Theyre looking for an answer to fulfil their lives & thinking a warm climate will do it for them. The irony is places like Darwin in the top end have one of the highest suicide rates per capita in the country, yet it very rarely falls below 22c. Happiness start from within, climate is only a small percentage in the equation. But like I said, hopefully all the people that complain about our climate actually do something about it and move away to lower Melbourne population instead of just winging about it.

Melbournes populations will never decrease the government needs more people for its own economic benefit. You stated Darwins suicide rate compared to the rest of Australia im sure there are other factors. You can also look at it at broader picture most health happy people are in warmer climates, Vitamen D, better quality of fresh fruit, more daily activity. Your friends that have moved were most likely going to get divorced and as for humidity that is in the tropics there other states or countries with a dryer heat they just moved to the wrong place. Imagine not having to worry what to wear or having not to carry a jacket just incase. Not having the stress of will it rain or not and should i hang the clothes outside or not. These are the stresses we have on daily bases. We think its normal cause we havent experienced anything else. Not whining stating facts. FYI im only here for holiday to visit family if it wasnt for covid o would of been back in the Sunny Mediterranean. I left Melb 7 years ago.

There's about 2 months of humidity in SE Qld which is when the pools are perfect. A great trade up from 6months of cold winter - a winter that often returns in summer too down there. Improving weather from that cold indoor climate to SE Qld is a massive quality of life improvement to anyone who enjoys outdoor activities, warmth & sunshine. Most of us here know another relocated Melburnian there's so many & we all joke about our old lifestyle, would have to drag us kicking & screaming back to that now!

Were do you recommend on the GC?

Anywhere along the coast from Cooly up to Southport is nice although I dont know the Goldie too well I mainly just visit for the day - love Cooly, Burleigh Heads & Broadbeach

Anywhere from Port Fairy to Mallacoota. Best coastline in the world, with a great mix of cold, cool & warm to hot weather throughout the seasons. Victoria, the state to be.

What about Hope Island, Helensvale, Coomera waters and surrounding area? What would you guys recommend?

I dont know enough about those places to recommend them....been through Helensvale a lot - it has good public transport - 45min express train to brissie & a short tram trip to Gold Coast hospital & uni (which continues on to surfers too).

Yeah I think you are From Sydney Melbourne Weather Is Not That Bad Compared To Other Places Like NYC. It Can Get VERY Hot In the Summer And Very Cold In The Winter. In Melbourne It Is Not Too Bad. Even though Sydney Has Very Cool Landmarks I do think That Melbourne Is Better At Climate

It so much depends on what you are used to, and where you grew up living. It also depends on what you like! Summer it gets hot, but not humid so I do love that. Winter is cold, doesn't rain as much as you would think, spring is when most of the rain comes. Overall I think it's ok.

Yes that is correct. I live in Melbourne from 5 years. 4 th Dec (summers) 10 AM sunny and 18c and feels like 16c degrees. It is a cold place.

It does not matter what season/day/time, when the wind blows from south / south westerly or easterly (from Antarctica/ southern sea/freeze) ... temperature drops rapidly even in summers or winters

Having spent time in many different countries winter I can say there is truly something odd about how much worse it feels (at least to me) in Melbourne. One of which spent in severe weather in Poland, my Aunty living 30 years in Australia and having spent 20 back in Poland agrees that Melbourne does feel colder somehow, probably due to wind. However we also have beautiful days too, and the constant change in weather can be quite nice actually just be sure to check the entire days weather before choosing your outfit. We get very windy and the weather truly does change sometimes drastically at least a couple of times a day, but Melbourne is certainly worth it . Some days feel too dry and hot to bear, some are so cold youll never layer enough. Some are mild and nice, some can get humid. Thats Melbourne.

Weather often feels at least a few degrees colder than even the weather apps say it feels like, but that can also be applied to hot days when it feels hotter then it truly does

Sure is hard to believe its just 14 now down there (in summer!) whilst its still 30 in S.E. Qld!

And loving it...

I love living in Melbourne and I like the weather, Ive lived here for 23 years. Winter tends to be between 5-20 degrees and summer tends to be between 17-40 degrees. Theres a couple of days a year which are super hot (up to 45 degrees) and super cold (under 5 degrees). Heating and cooling is a necessity. The weather can change suddenly without warning, so just have to be mindful of the forecast, there really can be four seasons in a day. Usually if it rains itll only be for 5-30 minutes and then itll be sunny again. Otherwise, on rare occasions, there are four seasons in a day. Melbournes a great city and the weather shouldn't be bad enough to deter anyone from living here.

Not even 1 month of summer this year! I agree, Melbourne's ghastly weather is one good reason to move somewhere else. Many friends of mine moved to Queensland, wouldn't come back in a million years even if they might miss friends and other things Melbourne has. They shudder at the thought of it because of the weather here. You cannot count on one sunny day or balmy night, but you can count on it being cold, rainy, windy, overcast or rapidly changing day after day. Apart from this year, the occasional sunny, warm day is likely to be too hot with ferocious winds. I've lived in European countries for many years and say, that even on the Northern side of the Alps, the summer and weather generally is far more enjoyable than here. And people do not freeze in their houses in winter - warm from bathroom to bedroom 24/7 - because they have quality central heating to reasonable prices and sturdily built houses/flats, double or triple glazed windows and good insulation. As has been mentioned, houses are not insulated here; flimsy buildings generally with inadequate heating facilities. One ends up spending an outrageous amount on energy (the price of which must be one of the highest around the world), if one wants to not freeze day in and day out. I always wondered why Melbourne was voted one of the most livable cities. It is not. Have been trapped here due to the global crisis and can't wait to get back to Europe and STAY there. My advice: move if you can, when you can!! Because it does affect people's well-being as has been said in the comments. Depression for one is linked to a lack of Vitamin D and lousy weather in general... (apart from other possible reasons of course).

I'd try SE Qld before returning to Europe if you can.....it must be the best climate & lifestyle in the world! I've lived in Brissie & Melb....can't beat living in a balmy, sunny & outdoor climate like Brissie! Melb is cold, cloudy & windy most the year, only ever warms up when a cold front approaches in "summer" creating Northerly winds to suck heat down.....until the front arrives & snaps back to winter! Then from March to November it's just cold to freezing with a constant cold "breeze". SE Qld is naturally warm all year so you just enjoy the outdoors with the pools, beaches & endless sunshine....you don't even pay attention to the weather anymore because it's always so beautiful:)

Move to tassie then

Lol I'm anazed at how all you people have time to write such long replies.. Get a life and a job maybe and please leave beautiful Melbourne alone..

I have lived in Melbourne my whole life. I hate our weather. Thats it in a nutshell lol

Yep. I've been running the heater since April. I have already experienced multiple 0 degree mornings and ice on my windscreen by May and expect to be running the heater until at least September.

I think some people from Sydney are on here commenting :) Melbourbe has less rain than Sydney but will usually be a few degrees cooler everyday. Winter is cold but its nothing compared to Europe or Canada etc. its very mild indeed. No real humidity here which is a major plus. Its been voted worlds most liveable city for many years for a reason. I think its a fantastic city but if you hate cold weather and want more heat and more rain then head up north. Property prices are out of control here so thats a factor too.

I went to Queensland for two weeks in April and it rained every single day! Clear blue skies but cooler weather upon return to Melbourne. Its all relative. Melbourne is mild weather and cool temps 3-4 months of the year. Please dont listen to idiots like Brenda. I doubt she lives here saying its cold 7 months of the year (thyroid perhaps?) its mild. Not hot. But mild climate. People are very fortunate to live in Australia. Europe would be laughing at what you call cold lol

I think thats the point, only ppl who live in Melb try to justify its climate & indoor lifestyle. Its just terrible compared to Qld unless you like the cold, gusty winds & barely any sun. You may have had some rain over 2 weeks visiting Qld but over 52 weeks its simply sublime if you like nice, warm & sunny outdoor weather. Couldnt pay me enough to live in Melb permanently, visiting is painful enough!

Well said andym12. I don't understand the defensiveness from Melb residents. Preferences are diverse but there's no denying it's miserably cloudy and "cool" here for more days, weeks and months than I personally care for. Not as cold as New York? Absolutely, but not sure how that makes the weather great. And please, the whole 'most liveable city' accolade from a survey used by HR firms to work out if they need to pay hardship allowances to expats is hardly a measure worth hanging your life choices on and doesn't even measure things relevant to everyday ppl who work and live here long term. Look, Melb like most other Australian cities, is a comparatively good place to live by global standards but weather is not the key reason... not to mention housing prices and other challenges. So if sunshine, outdoors living etc means a lot to you, then maybe look elsewhere.

I grew up in Melbourne but left home at 21 after joining the ADF. Lived in Canberra, NSW, Perth and Qld. After returning back to Melbourne many years later, I couldnt readjust to the weather. Dry skin, respiratory issues, etc. So Id suggest try it out for a few weeks before deciding to move for good. The weather is cold, definitely it depends on what you like or dislike but for me its too cold and depressing in winters which stretch far too long as compared to other states up north. I like the summers here in Melbourne. In comparison I absolutely loved Qld, may be coz I like being outdoors and I didnt have to wait for a good day to soak in the sun. Didnt enjoy the humid months in Jan-Feb in Qld though but still tolerable.

Most of these are incredibly inaccurate. Did it rain when you came here on holidays? So many sourpusses and know it alls. Obviously not from anyone who lives here and if they do then it hasn't been for long. In my 30+ years of experience I'll say that the weather has changed quite dramatically but we have a massive hole in the ozone right above Australia and climate changed has ruined it for everyone but Melbourne definitely doesn't have the coldest weather not even close. That is in Tasmania. Melbourne has changeable weather but it's pretty moderate most of the year. June and July are cold and rainy but that's what happens in winter. From September onwards it's usually quite mild. We have more pleasant days than not. I had asthma as a child quite bad but I basically grew out of it and the weather has never caused any issues. Melbourne is a beautiful city. Exciting and fun, great people, fine dining, cafes and so many great pubs and night spots and our wonderful sports facilities and arenas our lush public gardens give a wonderful quality of life. More than makes up for a few cold days and a spot of rain. Could be worse, you could end up in Sydney!

I would take Melbourne over Qld any day. I've lived there and HATED it. It sucked. It's either so disgustingly humid and sticky, you need a refrigerated air on going 24/7 or it's raining OR BOTH Its horrid, completely awful. I couldn't wait to get back to Melbourne. Qld is boring AF anyway. The weather in Melbourne just weeds out the losers and sends them north. Although it seems from this thread theres a few that are straggling and need to hurry up and leave.

oh, I guess you didn't go to Tasmania. Ooopsie, Tasmania is another Country, to you anyway.

Tassie actually sunnier than Melbourne fact!

I would love to move to Melbourne for the colder weather. How-ever my kids (teenagers) say a big fat no to that. Iv lived on the gold coast for 40 years and the hot humid weather is shocking. Unless your willing to go swimming at the beach everyday you will find the humidity makes you irritable and very uncomfortable. I feel for those who don't have air con in their homes, as a lot of rentals here on the gold coast have no air con and they feel like an oven. Melbourne weather sounds lovely and cold. If anyone from Melbourne is thinking of moving to the gold coast i would strongly recommend moving to, Palm Beach, Burleigh, Main Beach, Coolangatta, Miami, Mermaid, or Mermaid waters. NOT SURFERS PARADISE unless your young..lol..And forget moving too Helensvale, and definitely forget Logan. Inland suburbs are extremely humid and unbearable. I live on the beach (across the road from my place) and its still hot and humid being super close to the beach. You definitely need air con and several fans in your home living here. The only breeze your going to get here on the Goldie is if your actually on the beach itself. If you love hot humid muggy days/night most of the year, then you will love Qld. I love the cold and rain and will move to Melbourne one day when my kids have all left home. ( if that ever happens..lol

Melbourne loves to produce all 4 seasons in under 20 minutes. Some hate it because they never know what to wear, others love the sudden changes, keeps things interesting.

Melbourne is only cold in winter. Though by world standards not very cold at all. Winters are relatively short. For the rest of the year, Melbourne is warm to hot with oppressively hot summers with many days in the high 30's or even low 40's. There are even 30deg days during spring and autumn. Summer heat can hang on right through into April. Anyone who thinks Melbourne is cold, doesn't understand cold. My only gripe with the Melbourne climate is it's too hot. We've just experienced rive days in a row in the 30's and there's more to come.

Melbourne only has a couple of days bellow freezing at night but it's never bellow freezing in day time. To many people coming from other parts of the world, best temperature range is 0-20 Celsius. It's 10 - 20 here for the majority of the year The problem with Melbourne, as is the rest of Australia, is the heat. About 1/3 of the year it's above 20 and can get above 40 one or 2 days. I would have moved to Tasmania if not because of work. Speaking as someone from South East Asia not some freezing cold country.

Everything you said is 100% true. Melbourne weather is absolute shyte.

At the moment in Melbourne it is the 7th of April, the sun is shining, the skies are blue & it is 24deg, tomorrow is predicted to be 25deg, next day 26, next day 27. The night time temp is around 14deg, perfect for a good sleep. & our summer has been absolutely beautiful with warm , clear , dry heat, not the intolerable humid heat of Queensland & Sydney where they have both had that much rain that they have had flood after flood & people have lost their houses , & lives have been lost, winters are not that cold , put a winter jumper on & go & enjoy the fresh air. Go for a walk or play a sport, like most Melbournians, its not called the sports capital of the world for nothing. Love the 4 seasons , great place to live.

Melbourne's weather is garbage. Which is why when the sun finally comes out all of it's 5 million residents will be outside,honking their horns demonstrating their entitlement giving you looks of disdain, it's quite the thing they're not an overly happy lot.

What a lot of rubbish. Melboure is one of the world's most liveable cities and the weather is a factor for this rating. Yes winter has cold days but not freezing, in July (the coldest month the days start with crisp frosty mornings brightening into beautiful blue sky's. Put a hat and coat on and the day is fabulous. I live in Melbourne and play sport outside all year round and am over 60.

Melbournian's are the most defensive people., not sure why that is. They really don't like people pointing out how ghastly the overcast, windy, drizzly grey weather is. Lived here 15 years cant wait to move to a stable warm sunny climate.

SEQ is the place to move to...even this year with the cooler weather & more rain it has been a hundred times better than Melb's indoor life! It's currently 12 down there with apparent temp of 9......sunny & calm 25 in Brissie :)

Wrong. Winter is in June - July, lows of 6 and high of 12. Autumn is in late March - May which cools down at highs of 17 - 14. Then Spring is in September - late November as temperatures average 25 and dont go that cold at night and summers are late November to end of February. Although march is warm still as avg temperature in summer is 25 - 35 degrees and lows of 17.

Are you crazy? Melbourne has a much warmer climate compared to Canberra and Tasmania. And 4 seasons in a day is just BS. Many cities in Australia and the world also have these days when it's cold in the morning and very hot at lunch then cool down in the evening, on heatwave days. You would be very lucky in Melbourne because most of the time we have a cool change on heat day. So you will only bear the heat for a few hours instead of a few days or weeks in Perth and Sydney. We don't have many sweaty nights here in Melbourne. I wouldn't live anywhere else in Australia. Melbourne jas the best weather.

Melbourne has the most overcast and unpredictable weather of any major city Australia, 165 plus days.

"Laughs in Canberran" you people never worked out doors in -8 degrees in the winter or 40+ degrees in summer. Born and raised in Canberra for the best part of 25 years, moved to Melbourne and Canberra makes Melbourne feel like a dream. Don't believe me? When you think it's hot or cold in Melbourne just check what the weather is in Canberra.

Reality check everyone - anywhere that has 4 seasons (not just wet and dry seasons) has more cold than hot months! ha...I am from Melbourne and now live in London and it's cold and pitch black here from October to May! Thank your lucky stars that you're not in the UK. Winter is unending oppressive grey for the few hours it is light each day, dark when you start and finish work and freezing cold! The summers are vaguely warm (early-mid 20s if you are lucky, but most 16-18 degrees!) there is no leaving the house without a jacket, even on a 'hot' day. Everyone leaves to go to mainland Europe at the weekends to get some sunshine! I can't wait to come home to some better weather!

Reality check everyone - anywhere that has 4 seasons (not just wet and dry seasons) has more cold than hot months! ha...I am from Melbourne and now live in London and it's really cold and pitch black here from October to May! But the cold here is nothing really in comparison to other places in Europe. Thank your lucky stars that you're not in the UK. Winter is unending oppressive grey for the few hours it is light each day, dark when you start and finish work and freezing cold! The summers are vaguely warm (early-mid 20s if you are lucky, but most 16-18 degrees!) there is no leaving the house without a jacket, even on a 'hot' day. Everyone leaves to go to mainland Europe at the weekends to get some sunshine! I can't wait to come home to some better weather!

The worst time is during summer. It can be extremely baking hot during heatwaves. The rest of the year has a reasonably comfortable temperate climate. Not too much rain. Winters are not at all cold by international standards. Those who refer to Melbourne freezing are softies from other mainland locations who have no idea what real cold is, who live in perpetual summers.

Melbourne's disappointing weather is more than made up for in culture, good vibes and hot drinks! In all seriousness - it can be unpredictable and you learn to be prepared with brolly or jumper!

Yes - I've had to come back down to Melb from SEQ for a few months due to the border issues & all I can say is OMG it is worse than I even remember it......and it's almost October! Absolutely freezing cold & cloudy with huge wind gusts every day...can't even get the ski jacket off & heater on all day & all night all week, get me out of here this is no way to live!!

Qld weather is hot and unbearable and we barely get a cold day. We have the most boring weather. I would love to move to Melbourne for the colder weather but my kids say a big fat NO to that.

What is lacking in Melbourne's weather is made up for in culture, coffee & good vibes!

Melbourne is cloudy with grey skies pretty much all of the year. I've been on annual leave for 2 weeks and every single morning have woken up to grey skies and no sun (it's 'Spring' here at the moment. If you love sunshine, warmth and blue skies never ever move to Melbourne. I'm extremely depressed and have no motivation to do anything because of constant lack of sunshine here, and cold cloudy days, every day. I'm desperate to move to Perth or Qld where they have normal sunny weather, and not grey skies and freezing winds every single day. A warm sunny day is so rare here now, and even if it starts off warm it will change and become cold by late afternoon. Even during Summer we used to have some nights where it would be warm and balmy but last 10 years, this has gone as well. I can't remember the last time we had a warm and balmy night, I think it was back in 2008. Every day I watch the sun struggle to push out from under the thick veil of clouds, and it does..for 2 seconds then disappears behind clouds again.

Maybe you should give SE Qld a try - we did 4 years ago & wish we did it earlier now! Its been sunny almost every day this year & its just so lovely enjoying outdoors in nice sunny warm weather - our heating bills are non existent. Were fitter than ever from all the lovely early mornings walks that we couldnt dream of doing down there in the frosty dark mornings. The houses are cheaper which means you can live near the city rather than have the hour commute in traffic down there & we can do day trips to the sunny coast or Gold Coast which trump day trips to the cold windy Mornington peninsula. The state economy is also booming here so we have new projects everywhere including a new runway, cross river rail & Queens wharf. Add the upcoming Olympics/Gabba redevelopment etc & I dont think theres anywhere better to call home!

Agree with some of what you said Andym 12. Dark mornings ok what time do you want to get up 4? Its light at 5:30-6 in Melbourne 7 at the latest in the middle of winter or very start of daylight savings. I was in the gold coast in Feburary and it was dark at 6:30pm I hated that. Still light at 9pm mid summer here and light at 5:45am. Melbourne has more daylight than any capital city other than Hobart. I do agree its freezing May-Sep but from Oct-April avg is around 20-38 deg. So far this September its hardly rained at all and been mostly 18-24 not so bad. Grand Final day looks excellent sunny and 29.

I used to live there so I unfortunately know the place too well. We go for a walk at 6am each day in bright sunshine up here whereas its dark in Melbourne most the year at 6 not to mention so cold - will be just 9 degrees at 6am down there tomorrow & it hasnt even reached 20 degrees during the day the last few days - in Spring! Going from todays top of 18 down to 9 overnight but then up to 29 Saturday sure is a crazy roller coaster to be on. Grand final day will be 29 but then the next day only 22

I should add, I didn't mention Perth or Adelaide in the post above. Subjectively, they probably have the best weather out of Australia's 5 largest cities because they aren't as cold in winter or as unpredictable as Melbourne, but they're not humid like Brisbane & Sydney and have a lot less rain. But if one was looking at the 3 major east coast cities, it's a very subjective choice based on your preference around humid or temperate climates. None of them are perfect and all have flaws - as does any climate - so it's just about choosing which flaws bother you the least. Again though, it's subjective. If you prefer humidity, you won't find many flaws with Brisbane or Sydney's weather, you'll absolutely love it and won't like Melbourne's climate. My sister moved from Melbourne to Queensland, because her partner prefers the tropical climate up there. Whereas my wife moved from Sydney to Melbourne and hates Sydney's humidity despite growing up in it, she prefers the Melbourne climate. I love Arizona heat but I hate Florida heat. Different strokes for different folks. It's all personal preference, there is no right or wrong, and absolutely no point in people arguing about what's "better" or how it affects lifestyle, because each city's lifestyle is built around its climate - Sydney has a lot of water activities and a surfing culture, Melbourne has more of a dining & entertainment culture with great festivals throughout winter, the Sunshine Coast is great for those who love nature and the great outdoors. When taking advice, I would look to the more objective comparisons based on data so you can choose what suits your OWN preference, rather than emotive expressions of personal preference which simply state that people hate what doesn't suit that preference and use current weather (like "Oh it's only 12 degrees today") rather than long term averages as their evidence.

I really enjoyed reading this post, you make very good points.....thanks

110% this!

I'd also like to add that most people complain about Melbourne's weather as though it changes every 5 minutes every day of the year, when in actual fact Melbourne's weather is very stable on a daily basis. It's really only in summer and spring when just some days are likely to be changeable. Melbourne's climate shouldn't be described as being 'four seasons in one day', however 'four seasons in one week' is more applicable especially during summer and spring. For me, Melbourne has the ideal climate of any city in Australia. As someone who experiences severe headaches and fatigue in warm-hot temperatures and humidity, the mild climate here suits me perfectly. I love having one or two warm-hot days knowing that a cool relief is on the way to give me a break before it warms up again. The thought of living somewhere like SE QLD or northern NSW where it's just hot and humid nearly all year makes me depressed.

Seems from reading these posts we can conclude that if you dont mind a city that can randomly skip summer entirely & rarely has warm-hot days, followed by a 1/2 year winter with cold, short, cloudy days then Melbourne could be worth considering!

@kurts4 the other day i ride my bicycle to the gym around 3 pm, nice and sunny after an hour workout the weather changed the sun went behind a cloud the temp dropped the wind picked up. Four season in one day hot cold windy and raining.

great, even-handed post trentt2. I moved to melb 3 years ago and have to say it's not the temperature but how long winters and autumns last giving the feeling we live mostly is in miserable cold. i've never realised how much i need sunshine until living here. even london has more sunshine across more months of spring and summer climate. as you say, some ppl like it, i can't wait to leave

Thank you for this commentary really helpful.

Yes that is my experience from Melb, basically an indoor city for the most part. Here in SEQ its the total opposite, mornings & nights are balmy outside most the year which means most evenings & breakfasts are always outdoors on the balcony or outdoors at the cafe (most our venues are outdoor/semi-outdoor). Im also a cyclist & mornings in Melb require full rug up winter gear year round, I hate that & much prefer here where all I need is summer gear & sunscreen where we dont have those awful winds either!

I have always thought that if you want to get an impression of how people's lifestyles interact with the weather, take note of how their balconies, verandahs and patios are set up as extensions of their living spaces. In Melbourne they are generally quite empty or well barricaded. I'm trying to work out there now and everything is being blown away. March and April are really nice though.

I've been in Melbourne since December & I've required a jumper & pants for most of it! Definitely not the place to be for summer people. Today is supposed to be 24.....only just reached 18 at midday.....mid summer......& tomorrow's max is JUST 18! The rest of Australia offers far more superior living than this city!!

Don't be fooled into thinking this is standard summer weather in Melbourne. This summer we have been affected by La Nina which makes for colder and rainier than average weather. In an average Melbourne summer (neutral, no La Nina or El Nino), it is normal for temperatures to range from 23-low 40's with most days generally in the high 20's. Last summer was distinctly warmer, and the one before that we averaged 27 degrees maximum across Dec-Feb.

true

Very few people have the time, money or skill to visit the snowfields, which are well and truly out of Melbourne. Skiing is pretty much a past time of the well-heeled.

Oh my goodness Brenda, way to be a BOOMER... always complaining. Let me guess, you love saying: "THOSE DARN MILLENERALS..."

No, little one - biryani4lyfe - I wouldn't write something like that - because I can spell. You will be able to too, hon, when you grow up. Just keep practising.

four distinct seasons?? have you lived in melbourne more than 1yr??? We dont have four seasons :) only loooooong winter and super short summer(bonus rainy weekend)

Bro are u retarded? Winters are June - August and are not that cold unless u wear some layers and some gloves or scarf. Spring is in September - November and highs are 20 - 25 and are not cold at all. Summer is Early November from high of 25 and low of 11 to end of March (temperatures cool down) Autumn is just cold wind from April to late May.

It's the only mainland capital with a livable climate. The rest are way too hot for too long. Your claim that there is no sun here for at least 300 days per year is factually wrong.

No wonder having lived in that humid hell hole called Brisbane. That has terrible weather humid and gross. I lived in Townsville and hated every second also. I love Melbourne. It has great weather, its beautiful at the moment too, lots of warm sunny days and cool breezes off the water. It never stays too anything for long but usually it's mild. It's cold in winter.. that's what happens in winter. Shocking! lol but it's the best city to live in for entertainment, music, sports, dining you name it. So of course there's jealousy. Outsiders have to pick on something so it's usually the weather.

Really Ziggyvonmars, I have lived in Melbourne 44 years. Melbourne is the 2nd coldest capital city in Australia. Hobart is the coldest and ACT has the coldest nights. Melbourne has less sun and more overcast days than any other city in Australia including Hobart and that is fact google it. Melbourne is windy, constantly overcast has virtually no spring just winter from May to the start of October. Sometimes even November is cold like the one we just had. Its warm to hot 4-5 months tops, cold 4 and freezing 3. Ok if you like the indoors 8 months of the year.

no "outdoors person" should be shunned from doing their outdoor thing in a temperature above 10. If you actually do sport and stuff you would love temperature bellow 20 even. Are you only out when it's sunny? Sounds like a very spoiled attitude towards life and the environment: "the sky has to be a certain way or I won't be able to do my things"

The worst time is during summer. I hate it. I basically stay indoors October through March. It's just too oppressive out. It can be extremely baking hot during heatwaves. You should be aware of that if you live here. The rest of the year has a reasonably comfortable temperate climate. Not too much rain. Winters are not at all cold by international standards. Those who refer to Melbourne as "freezing" are mostly softies from other mainland locations who have no idea what cold is, or who live in perpetual summers. Winter is from June to August. Cold weather doesn't typically begin until June and ends around August/September. The first 30deg days usually occur in October. That's hardly winter.

Agreed. Im on the Sunshine Coast. Todays weather reminds me of Melbournes weather. Melbs atmosphere is fugly , sad faces, lousy weather except summer which is nice but overall is dull.

Right now in SEQ its a beautiful 27 - 28 degrees everyday with a refreshing touch of humidity, perfect for cooling off in the water, getting a tan, enjoying a cold drink with friends; and were in the middle of Autumn! The nights are a stunning 19/20 degrees, perfect for enjoying the nightlife Brisbane is known for, including going to the Footy at Suncorp, Restaurants at South Bank, or bars in Fortitude Valley. Unfortunately, Melbourne doesnt get to experience too much consistency with their weather and though they might have nice days this week, soon itll be back to cold. Whether its 25 this WEEK and 12 the next, 25 TODAY and 12 the next, or 25 this HOUR or 12 the next, its hard to feel settled with Melbourne Weather.

Sums up SEQ pretty well - been amazing weather all week & almost all of last week too.....out of 365 days you get amazing bang for back up here compared to my old Melbourne life. Your summation of weather down there is pretty accurate but for the omission of the cold wind chill....those "warmer" days usually have cold icy winds that make it feel 1/2 that without a thick jacket! And the nights/mornings are so cold for most of the year that you lose the outdoor dining & outdoor activities before/after work unless you're willing to brave the cold. When I visit & see people rugged up in jackets mid summer outside cafe's trying to eat breakfast I really wonder if they have ever seen how we do things up here....

Ah yes have seen how things are in QLD, visited Noosa 15 years ago over Christmas, cut our visit short because of the disgusting, unbearable humidity. Visited Noosa again in July 4 years ago & for the week we were there wore a thick jumper everyday & it rained, interestingly the person who lives in Noosa comes down to Melbourne for 3 months over Summer because of the humidity. On the way home we visited friends in Burleigh Heads for a few days & again it was cold & wet, these friends lived in QLD for 10 years & have now come back to Melbourne, so please do not tell me all about Qlds weather , I have been there numerous times, its lovely for a holiday in winter but the best place for me is Melbourne. I lived in the tropics for 2 years & could not wait to get out, everyone to their own.

You sure must be sensitive to humidity; its far more humid in FNQ than SEQ. I dont find SEQ too humid at all & love the fact theres a little just to ensure nights & mornings are lovely outside without the chill factor everpresent down melb - it is mainly tourists who think SEQ is too humid as they are usually from down south & acclimatised to cold, polar conditions. If SEQ was too humid there wouldnt be so many southerners flocking up here nor would there be so many ppl living further north - Cairns, Townsville, Darwin..incidentally SEQ is only subtropical.if you lived in the tropics your experience is probably quite different. Cold change on the way to melb with cold & windy conditions alreadylosing 6 mths of the year to indoor heaters & dark cloudy conditions sure seems worse than a few humid pool & beach days to me.outdoor life with no winter in sight

Its clear you dont know Melbourne or have never been to Melbourne, weather today in Melbourne 26deg & sunshine, Brisbane 26deg & rain, & prob humid, heater has not been on this year & its mid April, thats not too bad. Autumn is beautiful weather, Spring is beautiful weather, if you dont like winter, bad luck , move . Most people are happy to have the change, you can still get out & do things, its not that cold. Brisbane gets a lot more rain than Melbourne in a year..

Born in Melb & lived there over 30 years....and never again! Beautiful 28 degrees on the way here today, 29 tomorrow, overnight minimums around 20 it's simply sublime here. Melb will be struggling to retain double digit minimums after the cold front hits tomorrow. I visited Melb last December was meant to head to the BBL but it was freezing as outside so we opted to watch it on tv; Abbey on the ch 7 coverage was in full on winter gear (in summer!) at the ground & was so cold she said "If this is melbourne in summer I'm tapping out"!! I won't even bother visiting for sporting events after that winter in summer trip!

Yes are comparing Melbourne weather to Queensland weather. I am in the UK where the winters are long dark and cold. Melbourne weather is beautiful compared to that.

I've just been to Melb for Easter....well it's become even worse down there...after a windy hayfevery Easter Sunday (which at least was warm) it turned awful it rained constantly from Sunday night until Wednesday.....tops only around 15 & nights below 10, winter gear aplenty & didn't see any sun Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday! Don't know how they live like that....and it's only mid April!

To be fair owens3 Im from the UK too and when youve moved halfway around the world to a country as big as Australia youll want to pick the part thats right for you rather than moving back and forth! Im really liking this discussion by the way and Im glad we live in a country with so many different climates to choose from.

Yes its a cold place, yes there are plenty of colder places, but its the ever present grey skies that make it such a miserable place, the lack of sunshine can feel very depressing

Most liveable city Rubene. God knows why terrible weather its 2 weeks until summer and still got the heater on nearly everyday. The traffic is terrible and housing basically unaffordable unless your on 120k plus.

Rubene??? Where is it? In Russia?

Wow thats Astonishingly cold, seems like your winter has gone on for 1/2 the year! Weve had summer like conditions for months now, wish I moved here 10 years ago!

Our team of landscapers were working all day in shorts so not sure you think it was freezing? Even in the middle of winter we never get below zero here in the south eastern suburbs in beautiful Melbourne. If you enjoy be active outdoors you will only feel uncomfortably hot & sweaty in Summer when it gets over 25c, the rest of the year the temperate climate is perfect. Cant imagine why people would want an Summer climate all year round.

I see the max temp yesterday there - mid Spring - was only12! Wow that's cold....very cold....to give some perspective London was 16 yesterday/today. The entire AFL has moved here & happily training/playing outdoors in our beaut warm, sunny weather....& now planning to remain here for the off-season too they're loving it so much. Boating, pools, picnics are a major trend up here in these calm balmy conditions.....but are a rarity down there in the cold where it's mostly an indoor lifestyle. I think it's evident from this forum that - if you like warmth, sunshine & outdoors, stay clear of Melbourne. If you consider 12 maximums nice for 1/2 the year, Melbourne may be worth looking at (after there's a Covid vaccine & the economy can recover...).

You kidding yourself are you. The AFL is only up there because of COVID, its not permanent. As a former player myself I cant imagine doing pre-season training in that steam bath of a summer you have up there with all the rain you get. Most people I know love our cool comfortable year round temperatures. Queensland is not for everyone contrary to what you believe. Its only people like you that have moved up there that believe that everyone should think the same as you. Utopia is where YOU feel comfortable. Not others trying really hard to sells there opinion to you.

It seems you know little of SE Qld's weather! And there is nothing comfortable about 6mth winter & 12 degrees even into mid Spring! I have not suggested Qld is for everyone - I said if you consider 12 maximums nice for 1/2 the year Melb may be worth looking at.....& that Melb is a good place to live if you don't like the sun/sunscreen/sunburn or sweat. It's just 12 degrees down there now, still colder than London I'm sure that is a shock to anyone thinking of moving to Melb! Well it's time for me to go take a quick dip in the pool, enjoy your day lads!

I am so over it Andym12! But I have family, friends, a house, a part-time job here. It would be difficult to move to Queensland but I am thinking about it. Though, as John said, sometimes people focus on the weather when they are unhappy. Covid in Melbourne has been dismal with all the lockdowns and waves of infection.

It largely depends on how highly a warm outdoor lifestyle ranks among your priorities - I love it which is why Melb isn't for me. Here is a true outdoor lifestyle year round, if you enjoy pools, outdoor breakfasts/dinners, walking, cycling, kayaking etc then here is the beez knees of living. Going to the footy in sunny 25 degrees is just spectacular compared to sitting in the rain with numb toes & fingers in ski gear holding onto your beanie in the wind! Then the hot days there are because a cold front is approaching which creates huge Northerly winds sucking heat down from central Australia until the cold front arrives at which time the wind turns Southerly & temps plummet instantly (as happened there on the weekend). Cold fronts don't reach Qld so we have much more consistent weather & so little wind that they even dismantled the only windmill built here back in the convict days because there was not enough wind to spin it! Moving interstate is pretty easy once you have work lined up, especially if you're an independent person, most people spend longer driving to & from work each day down there than a flight SE Qld to Melb to visit anyway (not that anyone is visiting Melb right now obviously). Good luck with your decision!

The weather plays a bigger role then we know it. When the weather is better people then to be relaxed, happier and healthier. Bad weather hinders anyone trying to be any of those things. If you lived in a warmer place you would relaxed healthier and happier without knowing it.

Hi Esat, Ive been reading your comments and I do agree with you. Unfortunately, it can be hard to move for better weather once someone is established in a place. I would love to live somewhere other than Melbourne, but I think I will have to make do, given my loved ones are here. I own a small property in the Whitsundays. Whenever I visit there, I feel literally transformed. Thank you for your entries to this thread. They are respectful of other people and create food for thought.

Thank you also, that is amazing that you can get away like that. I left all my family and friends and moved to North Cyprus, best move i ever made. The weather was amazing i was always outside thats when i realised there is more to life. I only moved back cause of family reasons and i regret it biggest mistake of my life. The only bad side to Europe is the economy.

I've lived in Melbourne my entire life 39 years, and would bever sefends this hell hole weather,,

I personally believe that here in Melbourne we dont really have a winter, more like a long autumn followed by a long spring. If you want a winter you really have to head to higher altitude, place like Bright in Victoria or Jindabyne in N.S.W. Melbournes climate doesnt get could enough to call it winter.

Not sure what part of Melb's you are in but it was average at best in St Kilda.

I think theres a common theme about insulation, ducted heating etc etc.all indicating Melbournians are stuck indoors a lot. Not the place to be if you want an outdoor lifestyle!

No Melbournians are out & about in winter, plenty of sporting events taking place & bbqs with friends, its very social. Qld too hot & humid in Summer you need to have air conditioning on all the time, too humid too go outside.

Yes I see its been a few days of only 15/16 maximums down there even in November....seems so cold to a Qlder especially since its meant to be summer in 3 weeks!

Definitely an each to their own statement. The cool weather means we can control our comfort level in doors & outdoors. Feeling cool, you can wear a jumper or jacket as opposed to the Summer where when you feel too hot thats just bad luck. Once you stripe down & youre still hot then what? Not to mention constant sweating outdoors, the sunburn & skin damage from that, the flies, mosquitoes. Whats good about it?

Ha Ive noted on the news the 12/13 degree maximums there late September! Unbelievably long winter down there, here weve had Sunny mid to high 20s for months & our night minimums are usually mid teens - simply sublime compared to that indoor lifestyle with heaters how boring!

No far from it. The amount of home maintenance & landscaping we have been doing here would not have been achieved if we were getting high 20c temperatures. The mid teens have been perfect, no lacking energy from sapping heat, no sunscreen, no sunburn. Love Melbournes climate.

I can agree that Melb is a good place to live if you don't like the sun/sunscreen/sunburn or sweat! Of course that sure isn't many peoples preference & in stark contrast to the lifestyle on offer in the rest of the country! It's reflecting in the thousands upon thousands fleeing Vic for NSW & QLD highlighting Melbourne's dependance on overseas immigration to sustain its population. QLD is coming of age & very exciting to be a part of in addition to the climate which can only be described as paradise; Beautiful one day, perfect the next :)

You forgot to mention one the highest rates of skin cancer in the world. No alpine region, a large amount of Anglo Australians. Do I need to continue. As I started earlier, each to their own. By the way you should work for Queensland Tourism.

Thats a fair point, def need to be SunSmart in this part of the country. Its not suitable if you dont like hats & sunscreen. We get cold when it drops to 20 degrees so definitely dont envy living near ski fields though!

This weather is definitely just perfect for those who love the cold. Frost mid-Spring must be the best for you! Some people cannot be cold enough and this weather must be coming close for you folks. Frost in the Spring. Superb for you!

Brrr-Yani cold4lyfe will be so happy, bless her!

As we sit here having a beer outdoors in 24 degrees its 14 & raining in Melb....where it wont hit 20 again until Wednesday! Yet were high 20s all week except Sunday which is 30! Hard to believe such a difference in lifestyle from a 2hr flight North, Melb is definitely the place to be if you enjoy the cold.

If you like being stuck indoors all year round and traffic Melbourne is for you.

Yes that so wasnt for me, I have to work harder here but to have perfect weather mornings/nights/weekends to enjoy outside of work it just feels like holidays & such a perfect life balance!

Life should always feel like a holiday. We work all year to go on holidays to beautiful places like Qld or bali or europe, why not have that life style all the time.

Ive read a lot of comments here and I find Johns158 comments to be so one sided and argumentative that I am not sure what he is defending. When people cant take the heat they hate everywhere thats warmer than where they live. Too much defending Melbourne going on here. John needs to sit down and watch a good game of rugby and discover the world.

Maybe it'll be better if you could move to United States of America, you would love it there

The forecast two days ago predicted rain late afternoon today, thats why I went for a ride this morning instead of this afternoon. If your concerned about rain & storms, forget about moving to S.E Queensland, they get storm surges that wash away the sand dunes & even cyclones some years, they also receive almost double the amount of rain fall compared to Melbourne annually. Check out the stats for rain fall up there.

Esat dont listen to Melbournians just look up the bureau of meteorology historical observations & note temps but moreover compare the apparent temps/wind year round. Wind chill down there makes even reasonable temps cold whereas we barely have wind - today melb was 15 at midday but apparent temp just 8 (that is still a warm day for Melb considering Tues & Wed max only 13). Meanwhile my evening walk at 6pm here was 17 & apparent temp 16 - warmer than Melbs apparent temp all day (btw melb temp at 6pm was 9 with apparent temp 3!). The 2 cities couldnt be more different in lifestyle. Year round warmth & sun versus mostly cold, windy & cloudy.

180 days overcast and cloudy compared to 42 days in brissy, i think i wouldnt mind a few storms atleast i will have more sunny days.

Perth is apparently sunnier but theres just so so much sunshine here I cant imagine anyone would need more - plus Perth has a cold winter. Almost every single morning coffee here in 18 mths has been in the lovely sun outdoors, true outdoor lifestyle

Every single town in Australia has its pros & cons. Queensland has warm to very hot weather all year round, some people like that, Victoria has seasons, some people like that. Theres no right or wrong here. Expat Melbournians love to try & convince others that their decision to up root & leave family & friends was the right choice. This choice can have a big effect on people close to you so needs to considered very carefully. Warm weather vs no family & friends. A great multicultural location vs culturally challenged (more bogans per square kilometre in Queensland than anywhere in the country) great choice of landscape diversity in Victoria i.e. our high country & mountain forests for hiking, rugged coast line, kit surfing at Rye, surfing the GREAT OCEAN ROAD. All these activities is something I would personally never leave. All comes down to the individual. No right or wrong here.

That's going off track....the OP & Esat are talking about weather/lifestyle not family friends and all the rest. Therefore there is only one answer:) IMO it's easy to overthink moving a short 2hr flight away & incorrectly assume why ex melburnians encourage others to try the move if they're already thinking about it - it's bc we've experienced how much better life is up here & how friendly Qlders are. Having perfect weather along with the Goldie, Sunshine coast, Brissie, Hinterlands & 3 airports all in a 100k radius is just the beez kneez of living, bring on the AFL finals & hopefully in future the Olympics! People can always move back if they don't like the change & that is way better than having never tried it.

@johns158 Im not trying to convince anyway, merely only stating my own experiences. Victoria is great as i mentioned before we have everything, but you have to remember we cant always experience what Victoria has to offer. How often does a normal family/person in Victoria experience the things you have mentioned. The families/people that dont get to experience all that Victoria has to offer is it worth living here, what are the reason hindering us from doing all the things you mentioned eg. Money, weather and time. We can always find a job regardless of state. If the weather is better we have greater opportunity to be doing outdoor activities. Last is time well if the weather is unstable you have less time, if you are stuck in traffic as most of Melbourne is you have lest time. These are all negative attributes when you are trying to live a happier healthier lifestyle. Family and friends are important but why base a decision attached to them. If your family and friends love and care for you, they can always visit and call. If anyone has an attachment to there family and friends then i see that as a far bigger problem. You cannot compare something unless you have lived it.

Do what you have to do my friend. Give it a try & hopefully it works out for you. I was merely pointing out very important things to consider as an interstate move is extremely costly both financially & emotionally. Best of luck!

Thank you, :). I know everyone is different and has there own reason why they choose something. I try to follow some basic rules, 1. To do what ever makes you happy. 2. More is lost by indecision than by wrong decision. 3. Not live with what could of been. 4. If something is worth it, a bit of hardship is nothing. Enjoy your weekend.

Yeah go for it, beautiful calm 23 degree day here whereas down there it's blowing a gale & going to rain most the week ahead.....outdoor activities are just sublime up here! The best part about Australia is there's so many options all with different climates & it's so easy to move, well worth trying if you like outdoors & sunshine, if you don't like it whats the worst that can happen? You just move back (although we joke how no one ever leaves here!!). Enjoy!

Three layers on top are whats needed indoors in a Melbourne winter: two layers fitted close to the skin to hold heat in and a thick outer layer to prevent the cold seeping in. Two layers for the bottom half: e.g. tights and a thick pair of trousers. Make sure to wear covered shoes and warm socks. When going outdoors, add an overcoat. If it is very early or very late, you will need to add gloves, a scarf and, maybe, a beanie. Ignore the thin hoodie and Tee nonsense. Melbourne is cold nine months a year. Even in December, your heaters are running and you will need your overcoat.

Damn true. Southerners whinged humidity. I loathe humidity. No summer daylight savings.

Georgis, mind your own business as to where I live and address the questioner, not the responders to the questioner!

Shering, I just moved to Geelong(1hr from Melbourne) from northern NSW, before that I lived in Brisbane for 4 years. I HATE life here. Why would anyone want to live in Victoria. I long for the sunny blue skies every single day of my life here, like you. Life is so crap when its freezing + the sky is grey! I totally agree! My boyfriend is doing university here, but I might have to move and do distance, because its so depressing.

Andym12 definitely winter months are depressing awful many angry clouds days a very few days vitamin d sunshine.. under 10c daytime so miserable. Rather wear summer clothes shorts and teeshirt

I like Victorias weather I do not think I am an ignorant person or in denial. People like different things. I couldnt think of anything worse than it being sunny every single day. I like the seasons. Its natural. The cycle of life. I love the cosy feeling of wearing a big jumper and having a cup of tea. Just as much as I like a nice walk in the sunshine. I find in Melbourne I enjoy both.

The original poster asked about the weather. I gave my opinion on the weather. Comments on my life choices are out-of-line for you, but thanks anyway for your input. Please address any further comments to the person who asked the question and not to the responders.

Mark, you do realise that I did not post the question? Someone asked about Melbourne weather and I responded that I think it sucks. Since then, I have been attacked on this page for offering my opinion. I have been insulted for my age by the ignorant little 'biryani4lyfe' and called a "Boomer" by that ignorant child. All because I expressed an opinion on the weather in response to a question --- about the waether!

*weather

You do realise that the OP asked about the weather? If you object to peoples responses /opinions then it is perhaps you who should consider moving elsewhere - eg to a page with opinions you like better.

Melbournes climate is significant in just two ways - heat, and wind. It has no rain - just drizzle, it never has single digit max temps, it has mild winter nights - seldom dropping below 6 or 7 degrees. Frost is a total rarity - apart from the Yarra valley, which gets a dozen frosts at best. Its an unexceptional climate except for its extreme maximums in summer and high wind in Spring.

Melbourne has already had 8 nights this month dip below 6 degrees! And it's not even winter! Frosts are not an absolute rarity in the SE suburbs; visited last August & was stuck hosing my car to remove all the ice. Gives me shivers just thinking about it.... In the context of Australia, Melbourne's climate is significant bc it's the only large city that is mostly cold, where you always need winter gear on hand & is the cloudiest city in Australia too. Temp records don't tell the true story either as the wind chill factor from the Arctic winds there can make even "warm" days feel cold.

Yes, Andym12; lots of frosty nights up to July 13 and many nights well below 6-7 degrees. Not sure where the folks posting here are living but it can't be Melbourne.

Its still winter & we got 21 degrees in Melbourne today. I thought we never get 20+ degrees here in winter? Never say never! Love Melbourne, Love the great climate!

20deg for 1hr, then at 6pm a storm dropped temp to just 9 with 100km+ winds that cut power to 100,000 homes......

Yeah, dont you love it. Never a dull moment, were so lucky here, variety is the spice of live!

Whats your point? Because the Sunshine Coast today was 22c & drops to 10c over night, So thats what happens when the sun goes down.

Warm, sun, storm.... and living it!

Meant "and loving it"

Yep, the mix is the appeal

Golly sure looks like spring is more winter in Melb: https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/return-to-winterlike-conditions-in-eastern-australia-this-week-could-bring-snow-to-alpine-areas/news-story/f73e7c9b6582d24575297155e31ae111

Yeah, going from the report link you added, Adelaide did cop it. We might get it as well here in Melbourne along with all of Victoria, Tasmania & N.S.W. Spring weather is a mix of Summer ( yesterdays weather in Melbourne 25c) and Winter. Thats normal.

Forecast is rain every day & maximums of 14/15 rest of the week....eek! Yes I see the 50k northerly wind gusts got melb into the 20s yesterday...and now snow in the Alpines what a roller coaster. Consistent high & calm 20s/low 30s for most the week in SE Qld, perfection

Different climate zone in SE Qld, its sub tropical. South/East Australia is a Temperate zone which means regular (light) rain year round. Very little humility & NO Cyclones. I just wished it stayed under 25c here, other than that its a perfect climate for mine.

Actually BOM shows it only hit 22 for 1/2hr from the big northerly winds. Yes some prefer cold & its basically coldest cloudiest part of Oz so perfect for them. The OP is concerned about Melb weather & its very windy & cold late September there; that would be unexpected for someone whos never lived there especially if they prefer an outdoor lifestyle. Weve all been regularly using the pool up here in the warmth & sunshine, will be in it all week! Anyone who enjoys that lifestyle would be misplaced there so hopefully this info helps!

You dont have to be an Oxford Scholar to figure out that S.E. Qld is hotter than Victoria. The OP is not an idiot. Not everyone wants to hang out in a swimming pool for 10 months of the year either. Hot weather doesnt mean a better lifestyle for everyone. Im sorry if not everyone wants to live in S.E Qld with you.

The OP asked what to expect throughout the year? Bet he/she wasnt expecting late Sept snow in Vic while S.E. Qld is enjoying pool weather, its perfectly relevant in answering the question. On the contrary theres currently an exodus from Melb to SE Qld putting pressures on housing here. All the Afl/V8s/netball etc all came up too so its very busy!

If i was to stay in Australia, I definitely would plan on moving to Brisbane!

Nice 31 deg day today, had a dip in the pool during my lunch break! So much better than indoors with heaters & jackets listening to the wind!

Nice BUT can you cope oppressive hot and humidity heat? Swimming pools feel like bath in summer. Average sunset at 6:30 twilight 7pm. Sunrise 4am eeewww

That sure isnt our experience, perhaps Nth Qld in summer but not SE Qld! Love summers here, rarely use A/C & the pool is amazing all summer long Takes a cpl mths to get used to sleeping with the warm nights if youre from a cold city & sure need a lot of sun cream/hats with the constant sunshine but thats about it!

I remember growing up, during winter there would be weeks of cold very wet weather, raining every day for weeks. Constantly in Galoshes, then we would holiday in Mildura in summer and come home with blistered shoulders and lips and very tanned. I think this was a result of my dad loving hot, dry, weather. The heatwaves we get in Melbourne can be quite unbearable, as I lived in sub-standard accommodation on a number of occasions. The hottest was of course the Feb of the big fire, I was living in the North of Melbourne. Stifling. Contrast that to where I was living in a done-up single layer brick garage with a cracked slab and rising damp, it felt much colder for 2 winters as a result. The electric heating the landlady supplied resulted in a bill that kept me poor. No insulation. I have since lived in a building, commercially built, with double glazing and hydro heating, and it was fabulous. Now I'm living in a small unit, rebuild, the aircon was not working, and my room has been constantly 30C (upstairs unit). Finally it got fixed 2 days ago, but I watch the mercury creep up to 28C every day and have to use the aircon to cool it down. Winter here I barely felt it indoors. We have the windows that only open 10cm as well. I get affected by the heat, but saying that, last years summer didn't feel so hot, and winter was very mild. My brother used to spend all his time in shorts when he lived in Sydney years ago With my indoor temp being so hot, I walk around outside without sleeves when others are in long sleeves this year. I'm mostly affected by the Hayfever season than anything.

Melb weather is fine. I love it. Or did. Lived there for 30 years till moving here to bendigo six months ago. I really feel the heat and used to head to the beach or into a pool in Melbourne summers (no pool here in Bendigo so wont go out the door next summer) but spring and autumn always seemed good to me, much like April in the UK when I motorhomesd around with my kid six years ago. But I dont feel the cold so Im in a tshirt in winter in Melbourne and Id say its brisk and wet and can get cold - but we dont have cyclones or droughts and we do get different breezes. Ive never had a parka or big heavy coat in winter in Melbourne but I die in summer anywhere! Anything over 24 and Ill lock myself in front of the air con! In fact here in Bendigo Ive swapped winter and summer to suit me! Lol. But expect 26-40 in summer and 6-16 in winter. And youll find a good pub for any season and nice people (usually).

I just moved to Melbourne from Vancouver, BC. First, I was told Melbourne is open and free, no lock-downs. That changed as while in quarantine. Secondly, Melbourne has some of the worst drivers I've come across and I'm bloody from Vancouver! Third, Australia looks like a well-developed third world country. And last, the weather here is pretty rubbish so far (late June to late August is what I've experienced so far). The weather is not very stable and it really, actually does change every few hours. Random bursts of rain then sunny. It's calm one moment then the next moment it's crazy gusts of wind followed by as if everything is back to normal. It actually feels colder here then Vancouver. The homes here keep no heat. If it wasn't for my Aussie wife, I'd be out of Australia ASAP. Only thing Australia has going for itself is the quality of food and pretty decent coffee. Otherwise, no thanks.

Hahaha. Love this. Hi buddy. You need to go to Queensland. Half of us Melbournians are desperatelt planning our escape out of this state. The one positive you forgot is that there are a range of choices regarding basically any product or service you need and job opportunities used to be a little better pre covid. Like i said. Go to Brisbane or the Sunshine coast or Perth or Hobart or Sydney or heck even adelaide or Darwin or Canberra and you may like AUS a little more. I think the bad drivers are in certain subirbs however we all assume everyones driving sucks and thats saved my butt once or twice when I've had an off day. Good luck.

Vancouvers absolutely beautiful! We lived there when I was in primary school and moved to Melbourne 20 years ago when I was in high school. It felt like wed gone back 10 years in time. However we loved Australia and now call it home. You just have to give it some time and explore other states and regions to find what you like. I absolutely love Brisbane but once you leave Melbourne itll give you this nostalgic feeling thatll youll crave to be back here. Every time I visited Melb even for a weekend from Brisbane, Id go back with a cold lol. Its weird and strange, still feels like home to me.

Hey eddieb9, we just did the opposite - after 3 years in Melbourne, contract up, back to Canada, and we're settling in Vancouver. Remember you arrived in winter, and after 3 of them I can assure you that the Melbourne winter does not feel nearly as cold as the Vancouver winter. Average July (dead of winter) high-low are 14 and 7 in Melbourne. Yes the weather is highly variable even within a day but there are some beautiful winter-month days where it's sunny, 15, and t-shirt weather. As for drivers, I did a lot of biking on streets and I found the drivers to be very respectful of cyclists. Plus there are traffic cameras everywhere so you'll notice that there is very little speeding even on major roads. Hard to get my head around the notion that there are third world elements to it. It's a modern, prosperous city, lots of infrastructure, pretty impressive skyline. True, many houses are under-insulated (we paid an obscene amount for natural gas heat in a townhouse attached on both sides). But the city will grow on you, and depending on where you live, you don't have to drive much. I'm a prairie kid who drove constantly since my teens and we didn't have, need, or want a car in Melbourne. Lived in Prahran-Windsor area.

Worst weather in the world

I have been cold for the last two years of my life living here. Stuck here due to covid unfortunately. Three jumpers, a jacket, a dressing gown, two pairs of pants, gloves, heater on all day every day. Nothing is enjoyable because its always raining, always overcast. And then you get one or two random 45 degree days in summer that are blowing a hurricane type hot wind at you and if you step out into that heat you will literally disintegrate into the side walk. My God, I hope you never made that move.

I'm also from Melbourne and I have to agree that the winters here can be pretty brutal. Although the actual temperatures don't look that bad it feels much colder than it is here because we have very humid winters. It feels colder at 5 degress and 100% humidity than it does at -2 and no humidity like you get in other places. Also, as someone else has already pointed out, the older houses here have absolitely no insulating properties at all. This means that whatever the weather is outside you also feel it when you're in your house. I would say that it's cold for 6 months of the year here, hot for 2 months and in between for the rest. The in between is the good time to be here, but unfortunately it doesn't last very long.

Rain, hail and freezing as we approach summer in mid-November. Whats funny about this thread is those telling others, whove lived here their whole lives, what the weather is. E.g. babies who know it all despite a limited time on the earth. Its a beautiful city, or at least it was before overpopulation, but the weather sucks. It really does. (No advice being sought, thank you. I am not the OP.)

I'm temporarily stuck here visiting from Qld & all I can say is OMG what a rotten climate! Who'd actually choose to live in a permanent winter like this? I can't escape this cold soon enough.

Its a beautiful city, with so much going for it. I love the town, HATE the weather! I hate it! Cold at least 9 months a year! I am not the only Melburnian who feels this way: loves the town, hates the climate. What bugs me about this thread are the know-alls, some born yesterday (bratty Byranni), some new to the country, but they know it all. No manners, no respect for those who know what they are saying, and whove long preceded them. The BoM has proven the accuracy of my comments since this thread began, a couple of years back. ... I was right, just sayin. (I usually am.)

PS The missing punctuation is the site, not me. Apostrophes are scrapped! My punctuation is correct too! ;)

Brenda, what's the weather like in summer?

It is hot in summer: mid-December to mid-March are usually hot in the high 20s to high 30s. It is a dry heat. Occasionally, we have a cold snap, even in summer, and need our heaters on!

High 20s to high 30s: a dry heat. Mid-December to mid-March are usually warm.

I left sydney for Melbourne. Melbourne and sydney are both great cities. I prefer Melbourne because its more like a European city. A bit more sophisticated and quirky. Queensland is just horrible. Pouring rain, floods and hail, and the odd cyclone or two. Even on nice days it is appallingly humid.

Read the OP. Not a word about anywhere else but Melbourne. :/

Hahaha. Humidity? Wrong . Melb has dry summer heat. A very few days humidity not bad. Ever try Qld summer? Bloody muggy further north even more sweaty humidity.

Cold lovers? How come you got another house in Qld?

Melb is in the middle of winter already....just 9 degrees there now - Friday/Sat/Sun/Mon mornings were just 5! They just had such wind gusts that roofs have been blown off in Geelong & my parents are complaining that its been so cold & wet there for months already that theyre sick of the heaters already. A cloudy SE Qld day is 1,000 times better than that! I didnt find my 1st summer here hot or humid either....much better than the gusty 41 degree days melb has in summer (that are followed by a cold spell) & having to endure 6mths of winter, I could never return to that again now, this weather is the best it gets!

I came to Brisbane a few times when I was living in Sydney. Oh my God. I could not stay there a day let alone living there. It's so hot and humid. You sweat all day and it makes you sick. Especially it doesn't work if you have to wear suit and tie to work. I used to take shower 3 times a day back in my home country and I am so lucky to live in Melbourne now. Even Sydney is too warm. I always had a wet shirt by the time I arrived at the office.

Humidity sucks you.. lack of energy and strength

Last year the temperature rose above 40 degrees twice before mid December and its usually warm from October all the way through to April. Not sure how you could suggest that Melbournes winter runs for 9 months because you had to use the heater once on a 20 degree day that many would find warm.

Ship off Brenda

Brenda I moved from Melb to Bris a year ago. Sounds like you should try it - I loathed the cold & gloomy weather there - always feels so much colder than the actual temp with those arctic winds. I used to joke with my melb mates winter is 6-9 mths there too In Brissy almost all year is sunscreen & hats, my 6am 5k walks are mostly in beautiful sunny balmy conditions year round & theres hardly ever any wind which means theres hardly any allergies either. And utilising the pool all year long is amazing - the improvement to quality of life for an outdoorsy person is immeasurable!

It's those old bones, Brenda... No wonder you're so cold

You are an ignorant, mannerless human being, biryani4lyfe. I'd rather be old, than ignorant and mannerless.

andym12, there are a range of reasons why people do not move locations regardless that they do not enjoy some aspects of a place they live. I'm not going to record them here. I was just commenting on the weather.

biryani4lyfe, I have M-I-L-L-E-N-N-I-A-L-S (that's how you spell it, honey; you keep practising though - you'll get there) in my life. So glad they turned out nothing like you, honey-child. Keep working on your attitude too, as well as your spelling, and you too can make YOUR mum proud. You can improve; I know you can, little one! All the very best to your lil self.

It very rarely drops below 4 degrees in Melbourne. You must live in the far outer suburbs if it does

No, I dont live in the outer suburbs and frosts are common overnight in Melbourne in winter.

Just learn to love and respect nature and the seasonal cycles and you shd be fine! Negativity just attracts more negativity.

Yea I agree. Melbourne is so mild a winter compared to other parts of the world. Foreigners who come here often claim Melb doesnt even have a real winter. Its just going to feel bad weather if you come from north Australia. And are used to a lack of seasonal weather and almost expect this idealistic perfect humid sunshine a lot of the time. Most people around the world do not have those types of expectations or benchmarks. I dont think the weather there is something to bench mark Melbourne against. Melb is seasonal. And I think the majority of people would like it. Unless they are used to somewhere near the tropics.

I was born in Melbourne and been living here for 30+ years. While I love the city, I feel like the the weather's getting worse every year. People in the CBD are still wearing puffer jackets in December (since April). It was hailing today in summer (12-Dec-22) and there's been no spring the last 4-5 years. Sydney's average this week is 24C while Melbourne's is 17.5C. There are a range of reasons why people do not move locations regardless that they do not enjoy the weather. People can still love a city or not move even if the weather's atrocious, vice versa.

It's so hard to read some of these comments without utter breathlessness at the level of ignorance, exaggeration, and uncritical thinking. Ive lived and worked in Denver, Colorado, USA, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, and London, England. Moved here from Sydney 44 years ago. Never ever wanted to move back. The weather in Melbourne is fabulous, delightful, moderate, and temperate. Summers are great. Some of the negative comments in here are complete and utter BS, or total exaggeration. and have absolutely no factual basis. Winters can be cold, sometimes Ok, so It's further south, so Melbourne temperatures average a few degrees less than Sydney. you dont need to be a genius to figure that one out. Im sorry, but this Melbourne weather myths is one of those self-perpetuating urban myths that ignorant people keep alive and use to make themselves look smart. As to severe variability, show me several years of the consistent statistical numbers that prove the so called four seasons in one day or only in Melbourne weather variations, and I'll believe you. Until then, the Melbourne weather urban myth is the biggest load of BS since George Custer told the 7th Cavalry that there were no Indians on the other side of the Little Big Horn River. Use critical thinking and check facts. Your life will be happier and more fulfilling.

we moved to regional up on the ridge from Melbourne and from a weather point of view prefer it. we still get cold weather may to November but more sun nicer air . we didnt like the endless grey days and drizel all day many days. twice as many rainy days as sydney but half as much rain. then its very hot in melbourne from 1 jan to autumn equinox then bang cold again. our new house is warm and soundproof and its nicer more peacful but we may move to gold coast tho as we are not getting any younger and victoria weather is getting to harsh for us we like the idea of nice weather that is not extreme like victoria

attheend of the day we all have our own frame of reference and differentlife experiences and different backgrounds and different stages of life. inner melbourne has deteriorated in the 50 years we lived there for our point of view and we look forward to moving somewhere sunnier warmer more even temperatures but for others it is what they like. we are not all the same and have many and varied hopes and wishes